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Epictetus — The Slave

Stoic philosophers have clearly shown us what we need to learn about logical argument. But when it comes to actually using these skills properly, we have no practice. Give any of us an uneducated person to debate with, and we can't figure out how to handle them. When we provoke the person a little and they respond off-topic, we don't know what to do. So we insult them or mock them and say, "They're ignorant — there's no point trying with them." But when a guide finds someone who's lost, he leads them back to the right path. He doesn't mock or insult them and walk away. You should show the uneducated person the truth, and you'll see they will follow it. But as long as you don't show them the truth, don't ridicule them. Instead, recognize your own inability to teach.

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Human Nature Knowing Yourself
Epictetus — The Slave Original

What things a man must learn in order to be able to apply the art of disputation, has been accurately shown by our philosophers (the Stoics); but with respect to the proper use of the things, we are entirely without practice. Only give to any of us, whom you please, an illiterate man to discuss with, and he cannot discover how to deal with the man. But when he has moved the man a little, if he answers beside the purpose, he does not know how to treat him, but he then either abuses or ridicules him, and says, He is an illiterate man; it is not possible to do anything with him. Now a guide, when he has found a man out of the road, leads him into the right way; he does not ridicule or abuse him and then leave him. Do you also show the illiterate man the truth, and you will see that he follows. But so long as you do not show him the truth, do not ridicule him, but rather feel your own incapacity.

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Epictetus — The Slave

What are we looking at? Let's say pleasure. Put it to the test. Throw it on the scale. Should good things be the kind of things you can trust? Yes. Should you be able to rely on them? Yes. Should you trust anything that's unreliable? No. Is pleasure reliable? No. Then throw it out. Get it away from the good things. If you're not seeing clearly, or one test isn't enough, try another. Should good things make you feel proud? Yes. So should you feel proud about momentary pleasure? Think carefully before you answer. If you say yes, I won't even bother with the scale anymore. This is how you test things — when you have solid rules ready. Philosophy is about examining and confirming these rules. Using them once you know them — that's what wise and good people do.

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Knowing Yourself What Matters Most
Epictetus — The Slave Original

What is the matter presented to us about which we are inquiring? Pleasure (for example). Subject it to the rule, throw it into the balance. Ought the good to be such a thing that it is fit that we have confidence in it? Yes. And in which we ought to confide? It ought to be. Is it fit to trust to anything which is insecure? No. Is then pleasure anything secure? No. Take it then and throw it out of the scale, and drive it far away from the place of good things. But if you are not sharp-sighted, and one balance is not enough for you, bring another. Is it fit to be elated over what is good? Yes. Is it proper then to be elated over present pleasure? See that you do not say that it is proper; but if you do, I shall then not think you worthy even of the balance. Thus things are tested and weighed when the rules are ready. And to philosophize is this, to examine and confirm the rules; and then to use them when they are known is the act of a wise and good man.

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