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Seneca — The Senator

It crosses his mind that someday people will curse him, plot against him, and destroy him. What prayer does he add to this? May all the gods curse him—for finding a cure for hatred so worthy of it. "Let them hate." How? "As long as they obey me?" No! "As long as they approve of me?" No! How then? "As long as they fear me!" I wouldn't even want to be loved on those terms. Do you think this was a brave saying? You're wrong. This isn't greatness—it's monstrous. You shouldn't believe the words of angry men. Their speech is loud and threatening, but their minds are as cowardly as possible. And don't think that even the most eloquent writer, Titus Livius, was right when he described someone as having "a great rather than a good character." These things can't be separated. A person must either be good or they cannot be great. I define greatness of mind as something unshaken, sound throughout, firm and consistent to its very foundation. This kind of greatness cannot exist in evil characters.

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Doing The Right Thing Knowing Yourself
Seneca — The Senator Original

It occurs to his mind that some day people will curse him, plot against him, crush him: what prayer does he add to this? May all the gods curse him—for discovering a cure for hate so worthy of it. “Let them hate.” How? “Provided they obey me?” No! “Provided they approve of me?” No! How then? “Provided they fear me!” I would not even be loved upon such terms. Do you imagine that this was a very spirited saying? You are wrong: this is not greatness, but monstrosity. You should not believe the words of angry men, whose speech is very loud and menacing, while their mind within them is as timid as possible: nor need you suppose that the most eloquent of men, Titus Livius, was right in describing somebody as being “of a great rather than a good disposition.” The things cannot be separated: he must either be good or else he cannot be great, because I take greatness of mind to mean that it is unshaken, sound throughout, firm and uniform to its very foundation; such as cannot exist in evil dispositions.

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Seneca — The Senator

On the other hand, getting upset about everything seems like the mark of a weak and miserable mind. It knows how feeble it is. It's like people with sick bodies covered in wounds — they scream at the slightest touch. So anger is mostly a weakness that affects women and children. "But it affects men too." True, because many men have minds like women or children. "But wait — don't angry men sometimes say things that sound like they come from a great mind?" Yes, but only to people who don't know what real greatness looks like. Take that disgusting and hateful saying: "Let them hate me, as long as they fear me." You can tell that was written during Sulla's time. I don't know which was worse — that he wanted to be hated or that he wanted to be feared.

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Knowing Yourself Human Nature
Seneca — The Senator Original

On the other hand, to be constantly irritated seems to me to be the part of a languid and unhappy mind, conscious of its own feebleness, like folk with diseased bodies covered with sores, who cry out at the lightest touch. Anger, therefore, is a vice which for the most part affects women and children. “Yet it affects men also.” Because many men, too, have womanish or childish intellects. “But what are we to say? do not some words fall from angry men which appear to flow from a great mind?” Yes, to those who know not what true greatness is: as, for example, that foul and hateful saying, “Let them hate me, provided they fear me,” which you may be sure was written in Sulla’s time. I know not which was the worse of the two things he wished for, that he might be hated or that he might be feared.

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